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After all the thunder here’s the lightning: Euro-eCommerce rock star Rok Hrastnik.  I dared ask the Web business leader of Europe’s infomercial powerhouse, Studio Moderna, “is interruptive marketing dead?… because all this social — and for that matter online — marketing stuff seems big-time disruptive to traditional media like TV.”  Boy did he surprise me and set me straight!

“I’m working in the most interruptive ad industry of them all.  My idea of ‘cool’ marketing would be injecting the latest infomercial directly into the consumers’ vein,” jokes Hrastnik.

Actually.  He wasn’t joking — I was soon to find out.  He’s fairly hard core!

“Seriously… I can tell you that direct response TV advertising it not only alive but kicking, thriving more and more every month.”

While newspapers and broadcast media trail behind various forms of word-of-mouth (in terms of the customer trust factor) traditional forms of interruptive media are no where near dead yet says Rok who, bye the way, sleeps about 4 hours a day and is author of Unleash the Marketing Power of RSS.  (in addition to being Director of Internet for Studio Moderna)

Ok… I let go for a minute and assumed his statement to be true.  But if it is, what does that leave for the Web other than being a subservient channel to TV — as it drives people to the search box and browser bars?  Where’s the glory for Rok and his international Web marketing team?  I began to wonder if his team was all about pop-ups and banner buys… and to what degree he was doing anything original or creative on the Web side.  I suspected he was given his working for a direct response TV company!

Social Marketing: Fad or ‘Must Do’ Relative to Traditional Ads?

Rok and I both tend to question the validity of what most call “successful social marketing.”  (BTW “social marketing” is not a term either of us much care for but we’re forced to use it for the most part)

Yet it’s dangerous to ignore what’s going on behind the scenes — even in these early stages.  The fact is you’ve really got to look hard to find the success stories out there but when you do they’re startling in two ways:  1) how retro they are (what’s old is new again!) and 2) how simply they can be executed on minimal resources.

Hrastnik admits that infomercials are interruptive but the reason they work is — get this… “because they interrupt consumers in ways they welcome … entertaining them, educating them, thrilling them and just simply giving them a great story… which then actually goes on to sell something.”

“Yes, we interrupt but we also provide value with that interruption.”

That, says Hrastnik, is how marketing should be.  Humph.  Nuf said and THAT is precisely the opportunity represented by “social marketing” if you think about it.

“Look, Jeff… most of us will always depend on interrupting consumers and pushing our message in their face. No way around that. But if we want lasting attention we need to interrupt in a valuable manner. For most businesses, that value may come in the form of relevant editorial content.”

And that, in my eyes, sets up a good bit of discussion.

Marketers as Publishers

Here’s where it gets both dicey and exciting.  Hrastnik and others believe that marketers must start becoming publishers of information and entertainment…  they’ve got to be storytellers.  Yikes!  Church and State issues.

Rok argues for marketers becoming actual publishers — providing relevant content that people want to consume.  Customers trust it for what it is (that’s key).  And no this is not “branded entertainment” where the ad is inherently a lie — an ad masquerading as something else.  That is, in his eyes (and I agree) nearly worthless.  It should be, very clearly, an ad.  Think informercials.  Now things began to click for me — Rok was up to something cool.  I was sure of it.

“Contract publishers have been teaching people this for decades,” says Revenews founder and GMD Studio’s Brian Clark.  “Advertising tries to make a point, marketing tries to induce an action and experience design tries to shift perceptions.”

Experts like Clark and Hrastnik suggest that content does not necessarily need be product related — may only be loosely related or not at all.  Essentially, marketers aren’t depending on that content to sell so much as they’re using it as… well… bait.

“The content is your way in … your bargaining chip to win the consumers’ attention, the first step to a relationship which someday may result in profitable sales.  The emphasis being on ’some day,’” says Hrastnik.

Ok.  So now it’s beginning to sound a lot like branded entertainment.  Someday?  I’m getting lost… but Rok brings me back on track through telling a story.  It’s one that I tell often at conferences and with clients and one I’ll share with Revenews readers next!


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Yes, opportunities presented by social technologies are exciting but the task of shifting gears (staffing, allocating budget, re-training, prioritizing tactics) is daunting for most marketers.  So what can be done today?  How can “believers” in social media/networking/marketing work within the confines of corporate bureaucracies and convince superiors to begin experimentation under a sense of urgency?  Where is the low hanging Acquisition 2.0 fruit?

While researching this column, I decided to pose the following question to experts who are truly in the trenches:

“In the end, mass communications, ‘talk-at-them marketing’ is falling out of fashion.  ‘Engage and talk-with-them marketing’ is becoming the rage… and slowly bearing fruit for some.  Is traditional, interruptive marketing dying?”

I asked each colleague to respond to this (I admit!) rather inflammatory question in a way that yields tips on convincing disbelievers to begin taking baby steps forward.  So here’s some ammunition to take to your CEOs and CMOs…

We Aren’t In Searchville Any Longer, Toto
First, social / experiential marketing doubters must be given the chance to appreciate how the Web is radically shifting power away from them and toward customers.  As a result, customers actively ignore and distrust advertising… and the marketers that push it.  Think about it — how many times do we hear about the latest trend in advertising which involves disguising ads to look less like ads?  In fact many believe that’s what social technologies should be used for (they call this aimless tactic that insults customers’ intelligence “branded entertainment”).

Media firms like Nielsen and Consumer Reports cite growing distrust of advertisements and marketing ploys among customers over the years.  In 2007, Nielsen noted that over two-thirds of survey respondents from across the globe cited “recommendations from others” as the most helpful, trusted form of advertising.  Surprised?  Well to be fair I was lecturing in Monte Carlo last year and a search marketing entrepreneur did point out that recommendations are hardly ads (why would they be considered in the same classification as a TV, radio or Web ad??!!).  Point taken.

His retort was prompted by my pointing out that search engine marketing — now widely practiced by most Web marketers — is taking a hit.  Nielsen says only 34% of customers ranked their experience with search engine ads as trustworthy, reliable.  I think you can see why he stood up and said something )

Yet another study from the University of Southern California cites a growing number of people characterizing search results as unreliable and inaccurate.  Only 51% of people trust information provided by search engines, down dramatically from 62% in 2006.  Even Almighty Google isn’t trusted by nearly half (49%) of people who use it.  What’s the point?  Customers realize that Web advertising is beyond interruptive – it’s pervasive, obstructive.  Separating ads from information is a chore and people don’t like chores!

I’ll stop there and not get all Eric Clemons on you but I hope Revenews readers will hear me out a bit.

The Low Hanging Fruit
Beyond sharing articles related to customer empowerment and pointing to competitors practicing new principles, Sam Decker recommends bringing in speakers.  The CMO of customer review solution provider, Bazaarvoice also recommends marketers send negative reviews/blog posts to customer service — making them both accountable and actionable!

“Create ‘lunch and learn’ sessions with management to show them social networking tools, and show how people are talking about your products online already,” says Decker who cut his social marketing teeth at Dell Inc.

“The low hanging fruit is to bring user-generated content (UGC) into your site, right next to your brand.  This could be reviews, community Q&A, stories, polls or other forms of UGC.”

Decker gives three reasons to do this:

  1. Customers put more trust in brands when they invite real customers to talk openly in their midst.
  2. UGC meets the needs of visitors are already coming to your site. Visitors seeking product information, reviews and answers from customers who have experienced your products are more relevant and credible than marketing copy.
  3. By bringing “customer voice” into your site, you raise the visibility and impact of this strategy to cross-functional teams and senior management.

Decker says while others in the company know word-of-mouth is occurring on the Web putting it on your site raises the cultural awareness of the “customer voice.”

I took time out to interview Sam at a conference recently and will be publishing that interview soon… stay tuned.  In days ahead, I’ll also be back with more from Sam, comments from automotive lead generation expert Joe Loll of RockMeJoe, Revenews founder Brian Clark of GMD Studios and Studio Moderna’s Rok Hrastnik — who takes serious issue with my suggesting that interruptive advertising is unwanted  let along dying on the vine.


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